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much wailing and gnashing of teeth [May. 7th, 2008|02:44 pm]
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And here we reach the nadir of "identity politics."
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[User Picture]From: [info]ludickid
2008-05-07 06:45 pm (UTC)

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Well, I'm sure sorry I know that exists.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-07 06:56 pm (UTC)

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My work here is done!

[User Picture]From: [info]macsuibhne
2008-05-07 07:01 pm (UTC)

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Crazy.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:48 pm (UTC)

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And just when I'd come to accept the reality of gay Republicans.

Seriously, though, don't they realize that if it were up to the Republican leadership they'd all be in jail for something like "intent to commit bestiality"?
[User Picture]From: [info]professormortis
2008-05-08 04:30 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, I don't get that about either Furry Conservatives or the Log Cabin folks-I mean, how much good will the economic benefits do you when you're being (at best) harassed by the cops and forced to live underground? Though I guess that the Furries are kind of forced to live underground already.
[User Picture]From: [info]harmfulguy
2008-05-07 07:02 pm (UTC)

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Finally! A group of furries that I can look down upon again!
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:49 pm (UTC)

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Yay!
[User Picture]From: [info]improperbrahmin
2008-05-07 07:13 pm (UTC)

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Finally, something new to mount in log cabins.
[User Picture]From: [info]biquet
2008-05-07 08:13 pm (UTC)

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Well played, sir. Well played.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:51 pm (UTC)

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The most dangerous game of all...
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-07 08:02 pm (UTC)

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I really wish conservofurries were a new or isolated phenomenon, but it's alarmingly common, particularly for such a marginalized subculture.
[User Picture]From: [info]anne_jumps
2008-05-07 08:08 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, what's that about, anyway?
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-07 08:50 pm (UTC)

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Theory below. But in short, repression, the Internet, and the psychosexual implications of Saturday morning cartoons in cultural periphery regions.
[User Picture]From: [info]biquet
2008-05-07 08:26 pm (UTC)

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Wow, who knew? (I am not being sarcastic here. I am genuinely surprised that a large segment of furries would be conservatives.)

Maybe there's something about being part of an extremely marginalized group that pushes people toward libertarianism. You know, as a sort of fuck-you-I-don't-need-society statement.

I'm assuming most 'confurvatives' are in the libertarian wing of the party, and not the theocratic wing.

Of course, by the same logic, we'd expect to see a large subset of transgendered people voting Republican, and while I have no numbers in front of me, I'm having a really hard time imagining that to be the case.
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-07 08:47 pm (UTC)

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Actually, there's a statistically-significant subset of [info]furrychristians as well.

Personally, I think it comes from sexual repression and the advent of the Internet. Instead of coming of age in a backwater by realizing one's sexuality through old movies, using them to speak a secret language of gay culture, performing secret handshakes that lead to anonymous sex, and eventually moving to a city with a large gay village, people can instead come of age in a backwater through Saturday morning cartoons and regress to the Internet, where they can be relatively open about such things as long as they remain in the context of that Saturday-morning cartoon culture. They don't even have to move away from said backwater anymore!
[User Picture]From: [info]mckennl
2008-05-07 09:53 pm (UTC)

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Oh how I wish that were true, but it isn't. I know some extremely conservative FTM transsexuals.
[User Picture]From: [info]biquet
2008-05-07 10:03 pm (UTC)

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Okay, now that shit is bananas. I'm surprised Fox News hasn't already offered lucrative contracts to one or more of them; that's a self-hating niche just begging to be filled.
[User Picture]From: [info]mckennl
2008-05-07 10:06 pm (UTC)

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They would never accept the money, all they want to do is be men. The idea of going on TV and talking about what they consider their medical condition -- unthinkable.

[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-08 03:12 am (UTC)

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So they're in stealth?
[User Picture]From: [info]mckennl
2008-05-08 04:58 am (UTC)

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Yes. I mean, as far as I know.
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-08 03:13 am (UTC)

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It's bananas, but it's also rational - spend enough time trying to buy into the patriarchy sometimes, and you actually buy into it.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:52 pm (UTC)

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I guess I should have guessed, given the number of militantly libertarian/conservative gamers, comic book geeks, and so on out there.
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-08 06:42 pm (UTC)

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Beyond this, like you said, most of these people were sexually awakened by cartoon animals with hyperemphatic secondary sexual characteristics. And a lot of them are in "red state" rural and exurban cultural vacuums, where the sort of "gay culture" that people would normally be inculcated with is replaced by, well, the sort of things young people suffer in Winchester and Lynchburg every day.
[User Picture]From: [info]mossymonkey
2008-05-07 08:13 pm (UTC)

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Well, at least they're not wrong about ethanol.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:53 pm (UTC)

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Of course, then they go off on how we're getting too serious about the environment and causing the poor industrialist overlords to suffer.
[User Picture]From: [info]mossymonkey
2008-05-08 08:35 pm (UTC)

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And that's annoying. I have a colleague who's the same way, although he is disgusted with the way the oil companies are manipulating the markets. He farms, too, and his diesel fuel and soil-input prices are killing him. He and another faculty member did get one of the science classes to help build a solar-powered golf cart, this semester, so maybe it is true that going green is no longer a lefty thing to do.
[User Picture]From: [info]professormortis
2008-05-07 09:52 pm (UTC)

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Some days I just wish I had a gun handy.

For myself.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:54 pm (UTC)

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Don't hog the bullets.
[User Picture]From: [info]professormortis
2008-05-08 05:01 pm (UTC)

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Share? What are you a socialist?
[User Picture]From: [info]nitasee
2008-05-07 11:56 pm (UTC)

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ConFURvatives are Furries who are conservative, right-winged, republican, or even just Christian.

I'm not sure to laugh or to cry. But I prefer to point...and laugh...and mock.

I do love the last part with the implication that if you don't think the way they do, you ain't Christian. Well, isn't that special?
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-08 03:14 am (UTC)

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It's also embarrassingly typical. I know a lot of people for whom "I'm Christian" was a by-phrase for a series of policy opinions that they believe naturally follow from that, but actually don't.
[User Picture]From: [info]nitasee
2008-05-09 01:35 pm (UTC)

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Yes, I'm sure those same people would be horrified by the liberal opinions that many of my Christian friends hold. Shocking, I tell you.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:55 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, or that being Christian is inherently conservative.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-05-09 01:38 pm (UTC)

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Right. By which standard then most of my professed Christian friends must be lying about their religious beliefs because of obviously they can't Christian and liberal.
[User Picture]From: [info]dfordoom
2008-05-08 04:33 am (UTC)

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And here we reach the nadir of "identity politics."

I think it represents the nadir of western civilisation.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:56 pm (UTC)

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HAHA!
[User Picture]From: [info]burkean
2008-05-08 09:48 am (UTC)

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Not one commenter has asked if these inordinate creatures will be turned away at the ballot box for lack of convincing identification.

Also, these things watch Fox News. No surprise there.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 03:58 pm (UTC)

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I guess they cling to the hope that Glenn Beck will come out surprisingly in favor of two grown men in Care Bear suits having anal sex.
[User Picture]From: [info]dmlaenker
2008-05-08 06:39 pm (UTC)

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Why, the very truth and beauty of their love and totemic identification (which is somehow just not sexual at all) will simply shine thru and witness to (sic) the Michael Savages of the world.
[User Picture]From: [info]drownedinink
2008-05-08 08:58 pm (UTC)

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Good point, but maybe they'd stand a better chance if it's a bald eagle outfit fucking a camel wearing a turban.